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EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH RICK FELDMAN

NATPE Smaller, But No Less Vital To TV

TVNewsCheck, Jan 12 2010, 9:05 AM ET

The just-ended decade was not good to NATPE, the annual TV programming conference. In 2000, the show attracted more than 17,000 people and nearly 1,000 exhibitors in New Orleans. This year's edition, which begins a three-day run at the Mandalay Bay Hotel in Las Vegas on Jan. 25, will come nowhere near those totals.

In this interview with TVNewsCheck Editor Harry A. Jessell, NATPE President Rick Feldman acknowledges that the show is in a "trough" caused by the downsizing of the traditional syndication market and the failure of some of the new digital media to launch as expected.

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Yet, he says, NATPE remains the No. 1 venue for creators, sellers and buyers of TV programs and when the economy and media — old and new — rebound so will the conference.

Feldman also explains the decision to shift the show to Miami in 2011 and expresses irritation over NAB's habit of scheduling conflicts with NATPE.

An edited transcript:

NATPE has been constantly evolving over the years. What would you say is the mission of the organization and its conference today?

They are specifically designed to facilitate, in many different ways, the intertribal conversations that need to happen among creators and producers — the people behind the shows — and networks and advertisers and agents and various distribution streams.

There really isn't another place where all of those people can come together to talk about the actual buying and selling and about the partnerships that need to be created to get more things produced. We continue to believe that NATPE is the major significant United States market for the buying and selling of both content and ideas.

That sounds like a wonderful mission. So why isn't this show exploding? Why isn't it growing rather than shrinking?

Because the legacy business, the domestic syndication business, isn't growing. Consolidation, poor local economies, contracts that have gone on for 25 or 30 years, the lack of independent stations have kind of constipated the business and the time periods. And many people that were involved in that world have either retired, gone away, died or done a host of other things.

In '06 and '07 and '08, a number of digital studios were getting funding and starting up — companies like 60Frames, Ripe TV and Worldwide Biggies. A new platform for original content seemed to be developing, but then the recession hit and many of them went out of business or were unable to get significant funding.

So, while on the one hand there was a dissipation of the analog people, the digital people have yet to find a way to make money. It's caused a trough, which is where we have been at NATPE in the last couple of years. Hopefully, when the business does pick up, when advertising picks up, when programming for television stations picks up, when stations and other producers create original product for mobile, then there'll be growth again at NATPE.

It's not going to be what it was in 1999 or even probably in 2007 any time soon, but the business as a whole has contracted and it needs time to come back. We're not there yet.

Let's talk about the legacy business. What's the outlook for the syndication business and its place at the show?

That's a better question for Kenny Warner [of Warner Bros. Domestic Television Distribution] and Barry Wallach [of NBCU Television Distribution], those kinds of guys. They're living this every single day. But, obviously, right now, we're in a situation where stations don't want to support the creation of content that needs their cash, and you're not going to have a vibrant first-run business without cash. That's going to remain a problem for at least the near term, certainly as long as the car business and the financial business are suffering. Both are significant engines to local television stations.

Some people have said it's good Oprah ultimately will being going away because it will create a paucity for a certain time period. But that all depends on what the ABC stations decide to do. If they decide to either do local programming or news, that takes them off the board as the launch group you need for a new first-run show. You also have to expect that if the ABC stations wanted a new first-run show, they would first want to look to Janice Marinelli [of Disney-ABC Domestic Television], their own company, to produce the show.

And as long as MyNetworkTV and the CW exists, you're not going to see any kind of new development for independent stations because there aren't any independent stations and there are no time periods in primetime.

So I have to say for the short run, it looks like there will be nice things happening once in | More …

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RustbeltAlumnus2 Nicknameposted 204 days, 12 hours, 15 minutes ago
I was a NATPE member for ten years in the mid 1970s to mid 1980s, so I'm qualified to comment. The key benefit of attending the conference was getting to see the shows, but that went away with the U-matic 3/4 inch cassette. Syndicators can show "program executives" (i.e., GMs, GSMs, no PDs anymore) their wares online. Most of the deals take place without much need for face-to-face. Another benefit was learning from people, which is just as easy to do with coveritlive.com or dimdim.com (minus the schmoozing).

I fondly remember the gargantuan displays of shrimp, star-studded IRIS shows, and hookers in the suites. But that vanished with the largess of the license-to-print-money power of producers-distributors-exhibitors.

NATPE is every bit as relevant in 2010 as is "broadcasting" -- which ain't saying much. Maybe the place to be now is NCTA (The Cable Show).
PSIPthing Nicknameposted 204 days, 10 hours, 12 minutes ago
so, we can find hookers in the hospitality suites at NCTA?
MediaLifer Nicknameposted 204 days, 9 hours, 1 minute ago
In the 'good ole days' GM's and PD's knew their markets, their station audiences and bought programming to fit their audience flow and appeal. Now in the world of 'dumb down America' it's one size fits all. You see in reinforced in news. Sets look the same, spot news dominance, pre-packaged promotion, and worse - no personality. So broadcasting slides in share of viewing with affiliates hoping for the networks to save them; and the networks know they have all the clout to grab retrans, inventory, and ask for compensation. What a business!
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