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AIR CHECK BY TOM PETNER

Patience Running Short On Leno Show

By Tom Petner
TVNewsCheck, Nov 16 2009, 3:19 PM ET

It doesn't take a PhD in Nielsen studies to know Jay Leno's show is failing in many metered markets. His ratings punch line is a flop at 10 o'clock and he's killing the NBC affiliates' late newscasts in those markets. And, don't look now, but the so-called Leno effect is rippling through into the morning newscasts. The TV set goes on in the a.m., where it was turned off in the p.m.

If you're a news director at an NBC affiliate in a metered market, you feel the ratings pain every day. If you're in a diary market, you have to wait until mid-December to unwrap your holiday Nielsen gift and learn what collateral damage Leno has done to your newscasts.

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Talk to GMs and news directors at NBC affiliates or their group managers and the frustration you hear is palpable and sometimes turns to anger. But they don't dare call out NBC on its decision to hang with the Leno primetime experiment. Would you?

Look at the public thrashing Ed Ansin took when he tried to opt out of Leno and do a 10 p.m. newscast at his Boston station, WHDH. Threats to yank network programming will get an owner's attention.

One brave soul and group operator expressed his feelings last week in a conference call with securities analysts. "The Leno experiment is not working so far," said Bob Prather, COO of Gray Television, which operates 10 NBC affiliates.

"It's definitely hurting the lead in to the 10 o'clock/11 o'clock news in some of our markets. I'm sure they'll stick with it longer than they need to....Their ego won't let them probably get rid of it soon enough."

But Prather is the exception. To get others to talk, you have to promise anonymity.

On news director in the South told me, "I'm up about 30 percent at four, five and six and then at 11 I'm down and in the morning I'm down.  It's hurting my late news and it's hurting the next day."

How much it is hurting?  "It's 10 percent and sometimes it's 15 percent," he said.

Another news director told me his late news was down 17 percent in the key demo, adults 25-54, October to November. "And in the morning, we're down about 20 percent at six a.m. in October and November," he said. "It's getting worse."

Remember, the morning newscasts are key moneymakers for most local television stations.

"You now have long-standing stations that have been pillars of being No. 1," said a news executive. "They're no longer No. 1.

"You have 200 affiliates who are going to take it on the chin not only on their late news, but how it backflows and affects their morning news," he said. "At some point, someone has to say the experiment didn't work."

NBC can, of course, spin it, put lipstick on the numbers and point to markets that are bucking the trend like Detroit.

Mekeisha Madden Toby at the Free Press reported that Post-Newsweek's WDIV managed to grow the ratings (8.8 to 9.5) of its late news during Leno's first month on the air. "It's about the content and the personalities we have," GM Marla Drutz told Toby.

Indeed, there is a school of thought that NBC affiliate newscasts should be able to stand on their own and that affiliates should stop the whining.

One West Coast GM in a diary market, whose station generally over-indexes the NBC lead-in, says, "You should be able to stand on your own without a strong lead-in every night."

But he acknowledges that, if he were a GM in a metered market, he would probably have a different perspective.

"They couldn't be doing more for an NBC affiliate than they are to promote your local news," the GM said. "I don't see any other network show at 10 o'clock allowing you a 30-second live window for promotion of your news. And there's built-in promotion in the show for your news."

Clearly a strong defender of NBC and Leno, this GM thinks, "The death of The Jay Leno Show has been greatly exaggerated. That's something that the media has latched onto.

"It's a huge leap of faith to put a show like this on in primetime. But bottom line is, let's see what this show is doing up against repeats of dramas. They only produce 22 dramas. The year, the last time I looked, is 52 weeks, so that leaves 30 weeks for NBC to show its real true teeth here."

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PSIPthing Nicknameposted 86 days, 9 hours, 44 minutes ago
reading between the lines, Leno seems to have a two year pay-or-play contract. (Good for him.) This bad bet has been so good that NBC is trying to sell itself to a cable operator, who most likely will have to spin off the o&o stations. One wonders whether the program development folks are scrambling for the after-Olympics slump. (The reality is that most people are interested in drama at 10 p.m., and they will sample shows beyond their favorites in rerum season, not Leno: his ratings are actually likely to GO DOWN when the other shows are in reruns. Then, there's next years. The folks at the NBC network must really be proud; their profits are up at 10 p.m., I suspect.
tjxx Nicknameposted 86 days, 9 hours, 43 minutes ago
NBC is a disaster.The lack of creativity that this group at the network has pushed on the poor affilates for years now has cost a lot of managers at NBC affiliates their jobs because of lack of ratings and revenue. They need to sell the network and take a broom out. As for Leno, another accomplished professional that has been hurt by this.Conan instead of Leno.Are you kidding me There is something in the water at 30 rock! Repeat after me.4TH PLACE NETWORK!
Klaatu47 Nicknameposted 86 days, 8 hours, 46 minutes ago
I'm not sure why NBC promised the Tonite Show to Conan in the first place. Did they think he'd be a threat on another network? Hardly. He's not that strong. Now the only gambit is for stations to flip Leno to 10:30P or 11PM. It will help the news but if Leno later doesn't help - the morning is going to suffer. Yo! CBS step up!
kate bacon posted 86 days, 8 hours, 32 minutes ago
I'll be bad and go on record as saying that it's a failed experiment and it lands in the lap of Jeff Zucker. Yet he seems to be headed for more responsibility. I'm confused.
PSIPthing Nicknameposted 86 days, 6 hours, 48 minutes ago
he can blame it on Ben Silverman, correctly (or more likely) not. He arguably is good at running the Today Show and cable networks.
John Johnson posted 86 days, 8 hours, 19 minutes ago
To the GM that says only NBC gives you :30 seconds to promote your late news.... CBS for years has offered :45 seconds at the mid break; and:10 seconds near the end break to promote local news. Plus affiliates are allowed to leave the 10 PM snow :10 seconds early to start their 11 PM newscast.
WeekendDirector Nicknameposted 85 days, 4 hours, 28 minutes ago
And too when I worked Master Control at an affiliate, in the pre-Leno days, it was :45 news avail around 9:30, then a :10 at around 9:55 to promote the late news. I'm pretty sure the mostly-automated CW station we controlled, too, had promo avails just prior to 9pm.

And from being at an ABC affiliate now, I know they do the same. There's a window about 9:30, and then a :15 opportunity about 9:57. Plus Fox gives stations time for news promotions in both the 7 & 8pm hours. (Or at least our Fox station here schedules their news promos as if they do.)
Thomas Petner posted 86 days, 7 hours, 26 minutes ago
There's real anger at there with the news directors at the NBC affiliates in the metered markets. I couldn't use many of the comments, they were so extreme. Once those diaries hit, I suspect the screaming will begin. Most of the people I spoke to in the diary markets are just praying they can sustain, at least, flat numbers. Forget growth.
PhillyPhlash Nicknameposted 86 days, 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
BULLETIN TO PETNER: Comcast WON'T own NBC in a couple of weeks, regardless of what your source thinks. The federal antitrust laws have not been repealed. The deal violates federal antitrust laws on its face. Comcast competes with network broadcast TV and has no interest in preserving free, OTA broadcasting. If Comcast were allowed to own or even have a major stake in NBCU, its avowed devotion to a pay TV-only business model would do irreparable damage to broadcast TV and to the public interest. An O&O divestiture does not cure the root problem -- Comcast is out to destroy over the air broadcast network television, and surely would seek to control and distribute the programming that NBCU produces. the Obama FCC, despite its misguided advocacy of a spectrum grab by broadband, cannot ignore antitrust ramifications -- and the Department of Justice, along with the Federal Trade Commission, may have a greater combined say in killing this deal. President Obama has spoken eloquently of the need to preserve a diversity of media voices; do you really think his administration will allow itself to preside over the demise of one of the nation's broadcast jewels, at the expense of the viewing public and local broadcasters nationwide? Not that the Leno situation helps -- but Leno's problem could be that his chosen format works at 11:35 p.m. but doesn't work in primetime, where viewers have better choices than his same old shtick. Maybe NBC should have put Conan in primetime, doing a real comedy-variety hour and not a retread like Jay's doing -- and maybe Jay should go back to 11:30 p.m. Are any GMs thinking along those lines, Tom?
Thomas Petner posted 85 days, 17 hours, 8 minutes ago
Well, first off, you're probably right, Comcast won't own NBC that quickly. The comment came as a frustrated 'oh well' remark...forget all the "what if comments" since Comcast will own it anyway.
Everyone I spoke to said they've heard all sorts of rumors and speculation. While some of news directors and others thought Jay was "phoning it in," I think it's a matter of choice at 10 o'clock.
Couldashoulda Nicknameposted 86 days, 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
The play was to reduce prime to two hours, give affiliates the 10pm hour for news, and buid a late night block of Leno, Conan and Fallon. Reports indicate that late fringe is sold out on the network, and NBC could have been well positioned to control that daypart. With the thining of product, focusing on two hours a night would have been a real benefit for the Network. So, how long before a station, or maybe even several stations, pull the plug on Leno at 10pm and slide local news into the time period. Will NBC have the same reaction that thwarted the Boston move?
Couldashoulda Nicknameposted 86 days, 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
The play was to reduce prime to two hours, give affiliates the 10pm hour for news, and buid a late night block of Leno, Conan and Fallon. Reports indicate that late fringe is sold out on the network, and NBC could have been well positioned to control that daypart. With the thining of product, focusing on two hours a night would have been a real benefit for the Network. So, how long before a station, or maybe even several stations, pull the plug on Leno at 10pm and slide local news into the time period. Will NBC have the same reaction that thwarted the Boston move?
tvspy Nicknameposted 86 days, 56 minutes ago
If you build it..."they" will come. For years our news under-whelmed the big lead-in from NBC prime. By adding additional hours of news on Sat/Sun mornings, we have seen a growth in late news while seeing a share drop in Prime. Leno is a disaster, but it provides an excuse for not taking control of your product.
AM News effect? If this was 1970 we would have an issue. That modern channel changing device works wonders getting you from channel to channel.
Thomas Petner posted 85 days, 16 hours, 58 minutes ago
In an perverse way, the whole Leno-effect on late and morning news is forcing some local stations to take more/better "control" of the product. Everyone I spoke to referenced discussions/meetings to find ways out of this mess. You're right on the channel changing, but the fact is that there's a "backflow" into the mornings as one person described it. Several managers estimated 10 to 15%...in one case it was 20%.
HowardMBurgers Nicknameposted 85 days, 16 hours, 18 minutes ago
Just wait, next Jeff Zucker will go back to the affiliates who are complaining about Leno ruining their news lead-in's with the line: "okay then, stations can pitch in with more reverse comp for scripted programming at 10PM to make up the cost difference between Leno and a new first-run series.
PSIPthing Nicknameposted 85 days, 10 hours, 31 minutes ago
you mean they paid less reverse comp for Leno? (hah)
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