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TECH ONE ON ONE WITH GARY SGRIGNOLI

How To Keep DTV from Going Astray

TVNewsCheck, Apr 30 2009, 12:18 PM ET

Gary Sgrignoli may know as much about DTV transmission — its strengths, its weaknesses, its quirks —  as any person alive.

For nearly 30 years, he worked at Zenith Electronics (now LG Electronics) where he was deeply involved in the development and testing of the 8-VSB transmission scheme, which was ultimately adopted as the ATSC standard.

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Now, a partner in the Meintel, Sgrignoli & Wallace consulting firm, Sgrignoli has emerged as a DTV transmission guru, keeping a sharp watch for problems as they arise and figuring out how to fix them.

Over the past 10 years, he has shared his wisdom with broadcast engineers through more than 85 all-day seminars on 8-VSB.

In this interview with TVNewsCheck, Sgrignoli talks about what broadcasters — and viewers — need to do to make sure viewers can find the DTV signals and keep the pictures sharp and steady.

An edited transcript:

I have been hearing lately that the DTV signal is not everything that it should be, that the reception is poor even in areas where the field strength meters are saying it should be strong. What's going on?

I have not heard a great deal of clamoring regarding this since a third of the TV stations turned off analog by Feb 17. Now we've quietly heard that there are certain areas where they're questioning whether high-VHF signals are being received properly. My concern is that there may not be enough radiated transmitter power in some cases, and that people are using rabbit ears that are not very good in other cases. Also, getting the signal indoors sometimes is a problem with high-VHF, if the only decent path to the inside is through the windows, which typically are not large enough for these high-VHF signals to pass through easily. Of course, it's worse for low-VHF signals, but there are only roughly 40 stations in the whole country that are going to end up in that band.

There are plenty of areas where people are pleased with the coverage. Unfortunately, you don't hear much from them because when people are happy, they don't bother to call in and write in and so forth. So, obviously, I believe it's slighted towards the negative side.

That said, there are three areas where problems can creep in — the transmit side, the propagation side, and then the receive side. The broadcasters are working hard on the transmit system. They're learning, they're gaining more test equipment, and they're learning how to use it and so forth, and so we've seen some really good things there.

The propagation side: Hey, you can't change the terrain or the buildings that are there. Hopefully, the broadcasters have optimized where they've placed their transmit antennas and the height of the antennas and their patterns and all that.

That leaves the receive side, which I believe is the biggest concern. That's where the industry is trying to catch up now. They have to educate the viewers on what kind of antennas they need and how to use them.

One of the problems is with "managed expectations." Viewers were told to just get a DTV set or a converter box, hook up some kind of antenna either indoors or outdoors, and assured that it would work. While that can work in some cases, it does not work all of the time. That is a problem that can only be solved with more viewer education.

Let's talk about the broadcast side first. What's going on or not going on at the transmitter site that may be causing problems? And how do you rectify it?

The broadcasters are pretty much sending out a decent VSB signal in terms of signal quality. They've learned to do linear and nonlinear pre-correction, which means to make the signal as pristine as possible before it's sent up the transmission line to the antenna. They've worked out some of the issues with average power measurement, FCC emission mask compliance, phase noise and things like that, but there may still be some issues with clock jitter.

Clock jitter?

In the early days, we saw that sometimes the transport clock going into the exciter was jittering enough that it caused the symbol clock of the 8-VSB to also jitter to the extent that it affected the receivers out in the field. This jitter can come in anywhere — from the studio to the transmitter. So that's just one thing to be careful about. The other thing is the actual symbol clock frequency. In the early days, the symbol clock frequency was sometimes not within the recommended 2.8 parts per million tolerance. Test equipment now is in place to at least inform them about the frequency tolerance of the symbol clock.

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L Behr posted 246 days, 12 hours, 45 minutes ago
Good news! The new MSK-200 Universal DTV Transmission Test Set from the highly respected manufacturer Kathrein, and distributed in North America by LBA Technology, costs only $16,000, is portable and battery/mains powered and does virtually everything - and more - that the $60,000 analyzers do. Just introduced at NAB2009, you can read more at http://www.lbagroup.com/MSK200.
Cary Lahnum posted 246 days, 12 hours, 6 minutes ago
The (high VHF) DTV signal is NOT everything that it should be, the reception IS poor even in areas where the field strength meters are saying it should be strong. Gary says "I have not heard a great deal of clamoring regarding this (since a third of the TV stations turned off analog by Feb 17. Now we've quietly heard that there are certain areas where they're questioning whether high-VHF signals are being received properly. " Right. High VHF Station Chief
HiBandChief2 Nicknameposted 238 days, 9 hours, 40 minutes ago
DITTO!!!
Richard Emery posted 246 days, 11 hours, 19 minutes ago
As a semi-informed layman, I can provide a real-life example of problems with a high VHF DTV signal in the Cincinnati area. Of all the digital signals, the only one that typically has a problem here is our lone high VHF DTV station, WCPO-9 (broadcasting digitally on channel 10). It suffers the most drop-outs, and by itself, probably generates as many complaints among my acquaintances as all other local stations combined. After June 12, WKRC-12 joins WCPO as a high VHF station when it flashes back to channel 12. I wonder if it will suffer from the same problems? It's refreshing to see an expert acknowledge the "dirty little secret" of DTV -- that FCC coverage maps are predicated on an outdoor antenna at 30 feet elevation. That's not something many people I know currently have, and not many are likely to erect a new antenna in these economic times. We'll subsist on the best indoor "rabbit ear" antenna we can find.
Bubba Nicknameposted 246 days, 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
So we've just now learned with the DTV transition that a larger antenna is required to receive lower frequency signals than higher frequency signals? And therefore viewers using a small, indoor antenna can often receive UHF DTV signals when they can't receive VHF DTV signals - and we're surprised by this? Why do you think the smart guys did everything they could to get a UHF channel for DTV?
Eric Small posted 246 days, 9 hours, 19 minutes ago
I agree with the substance of what Gary is saying, but not his emphasis. At Modulation Sciences (MSI) we have heard from many stations who are NOT transmitting an optimum signal. Sometimes we hear that the viewer can see the station’s tower, but still not receive a stable signal. It may be that being a consultant, Gary’s sampling is skewed toward the richer more technically sophisticated broadcasters. As an equipment manufacturer I hear from a wider spectrum of stations; those who are often looking for advice and quick solutions. Based on the calls we have received, we’ve concluded that fewer than half the DTV stations can make the most basic measurement needed to verify that they are transmitting an unimpaired signal – unequalized signal-to-noise ratio. The key word is unequalized. It’s easy and cheap to measure equalized SNR, but that only tells you how good your receiver is at fixing the transmitted signal. Only a handful of test instruments measure unequalized SNR. Recently we received a panic call from a cable head-end. They were unable to reliably receive the signals of full power UHF network affiliates located less than 25 miles away. MSI manufactures a low cost DTV signal analyzer which they bought. The stations were broadcasting a deficient signal and didn’t know it. The cable company, now knowing what the problem was, lent them our analyzer and they were able to remedy their problems. Transmitted signal issues may not be the only impairment to DTV reception, but it a significant one. Most important, it is one that the broadcaster can measure and fix, while other issues are much more difficult to remedy.
Ed Reid posted 242 days, 13 hours, 25 minutes ago
For reasons of economics and conveniences I have taken a much simpler approach, so in talking with a station's GM, he was concern at to how his station compared to other stations. The results of measuring the SNR and picture stability at 42 points in locations in rual and down town areas, a comparision of picture avalibilty was made on three stations, two Hi VHF and one UHF station. The reference station was the lower Hi VHF. No supprises in the results as to the comparsion because the reference VHF is operating at a reduce license power and the other VHF is at full power but not a OMNI pattern. The UHF is at full power and OMNI pattern. The average SNR reading was 24.1 db for the reference station, 27.1 db for the HI VHF and 28.3 db for the UHF. For stable and perfect picture, Reference station had 42.8%, Hi VHF had 61.9% and the UHF had 71.4% of the locations points. Did not expect any station to have a coverage greater than 99% of locations. If more locations could have been taken, the data may have shown a greater % of coverage but time did not allow this. For a snap shot reading, each location requires at least 1 to 3 mininuts and to monitor a TS, at least 5 minunits would be required to measure PCR jitter. ED
earl turner posted 242 days, 8 hours, 34 minutes ago
If you believe the signal strength meter on the converter box an LG I have a bridge I would like to sell you. I also have a HDTV with off-air rec and some station have good signal strength and others very poor. I can see the Empire State building from my house thus I believe the broadcasters have to step up signal strength. I have added an amp to the received signal and my reception is still marginal. I am only 12 miles from NY city in west orange.
Eric Small posted 239 days, 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
I agree with Earl Turner -- signal strength readings are of little value, even if made with professional equipment. Equating signal strength with coverage is analog thinking. Ed Reid's data sounds too good to be true -- my guess that it was gathered with the 8vsb demod' equalizer ON. EQ on or off is not a detail -- it is the difference between valid and invalid data. About the only thing that EQ data with the EQ on is good for is aiming an antenna.
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