Executive Sessioin with Tony Cassara

It's Time For A New Business Model

The longtime broadcaster is now advising TV station group investors who pumped a lot of money into rapidly expanding broadcast groups a few years ago and are now trying to salvage what they can. He sees an opportunity for stations to streamline operations by sharing expenses with other stations in a market in every area, except sales, and bring their margins back. Not to the 40% or 50% margins of the past, but to around 20%.
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Veteran broadcaster Tony Cassara wants to reenter the TV station business and may soon do so -- albeit by a back door.

After three decades as a TV station sales and management executive, Cassara is now advising some of the lenders who pumped a lot of money into rapidly expanding broadcast groups a few years ago and are now trying to salvage what they can.

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If the lenders -- or other investors who buy their notes on the cheap -- end up with controlling interest in a station group, Cassara may be called in to run it.

After stints in broadcast sales, Cassara joined KTLA Los Angeles as sales manager and was later upped to GM. In 1982, he fronted the KKR-backed leveraged buyout of the station from Gene Autry for $245 million and he was still there when KKR sold the station to Tribune just two years later for a then single-station record of $530 million.

From 1993 to 2000, he ran the Paramount Pictures Television Stations Group. Starting in 2000, he worked closely with Jerry Perenchio in expanding the Univision network and station group until they were sold to a private equity consortium in March 2007.

In this interview with TVNewsCheck Editor Harry A. Jessell, Cassara says he believes the business can rebound from its current difficulties, but only if it can find new revenue, drastically cut costs and get along with operating margins half of what they were just a few years ago.

An edited transcript:

We've had a number of bankruptcies over the past several months: Pappas, Tribune, Ion, Young. Should we expect to see more of those this year?           

I would definitely think so. The business has not improved to the point where marginal broadcasters are getting the help they probably need if they're overleveraged. With the euphoria of the last five or six years of easy money, a lot of people did a lot of borrowing money and no one foresaw this cliff that we were all going over.

But I'm told that most groups should be able to work things out with their creditors and wait for better times.

And in some cases, that will definitely happen. But some of the creditors are under tremendous pressure, too, and sometimes they sell the debt at a huge discount -- say, 35 cents on the dollar -- to a hedge fund that is interested basically in putting the company into bankruptcy.

Do you want to mention any names?

No, I don't.

Is broadcasting's business model broken or is everything going to be back where it was in a year or two?

I don't think that it's either of the two. There are two things going on at the same time. One of them is a tremendous increase in competition for viewers and therefore for advertising dollars. That's coming from everything from cable to the Internet -- even cell phones at this point. Then, we have the economy, which really has hurt advertising, automotive especially, which is a huge category for broadcasters.

Will it come back to what it was? It will to some degree. As the economy improves advertising will come back, but broadcasters do need a new business model. I don't think they can go back to the old one. They're going to need new sources of revenue in addition to the 30-second traditional advertiser.

What other sources or revenue look the most promising?

There are a number of things. No. 1 is stations becoming much more involved with local advertisers. With the demise of the newspaper business, there's an opportunity for stations to go after some of the advertising that newspapers used to have. They can do that in a number of ways, including producing low-cost commercials for local businesses and so on. It's the new business department that many stations already have.

I also think there's the possibility of doing something with the fact that they have a signal that covers the entire DMA. In most cases, cable companies don't have that. Satellite companies don't have that. Also, in digital, broadcasters are able to broadcast more than one signal and offer more channels than they could before. I can't point to a lot of success stories in that area yet, but that is an upside for broadcasters.

Broadcasters may also end up selling a piece of their digital spectrum. When I say selling it, I mean it almost becomes a real estate play, where another company buys or leases a portion of the channel. They can program it or do whatever they want with it as long as it's consistent with the station's license obligations.

Do you share the excitement for the new mobile DTV standard?

I don't know. It's hard for me to say. I don't want to watch a movie on my phone. My guess is that it will take hold as a short-form application. Some people are producing programming specifically for mobile devices. It's much shorter -- webisodes that might be 30-seconds or two-minutes long.

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HopeUMakeit Nickname posted over 3 years ago
I believe Mr. Cassara is wrong on one big point. I am convinced that 40% margins are easily achievable in this and any other business environment. What is impossible is achieving those margins with the current staffing levels and responsibilities place on the reps. I am in my 20th year as a local AE, and thanks to consolidation and centralization, I have never spent more time on B.S. outside of what I do best...face to face, meetings with advertisers. I spent way too much time providing rationalization and subsidizing a endless stream of vendors who are paid to increase my productivity? Usually at 10 times my pay? When spots can be taken off the logs due to a incorrect input of a break type, you are on the wrong road.
HowardMBurgers Nickname posted over 3 years ago
I agree with what Tony says. The viewer isn't going to get an inferior product is three stations share master control or other back-office functions. If stations can operate more efficiently and allow increased emphasis on content where it really matters, then what's the down side? It isn't all about just cost savings but focusing resources on what makes the difference in ratings and BCF. The "good old days" where TV is the only game in town is over. Time for the General Manager's to toss out the old model because those who don't change and adapt to the new world will be eventually left in the dust.
Michael DeClue posted over 3 years ago
Local brands compete (your news brand, my news brand, your prime lineup, my prime lineup). Everything else (M/C, news gathering, promotions, back office, etc.) must be optimized to drive costs down and free resource to compete EFFECTIVELY in all arenas of competition. This optimization will require adoption of a operational model similar to "Brown". That is, national scale, excellent customer service, highly automated and centralized with a highly predictable result.
Jill Sommers posted over 3 years ago
"right now it's a market that's tremendously undervalued just because the visibility isn't there.".... Excellent point!
Jim Clouse posted over 3 years ago
I already have the new business model that Mr. Cassara is so intent on finding. I have been in negotiations with TV companies for the past 4 months and have several deals in various stages of negotiation. However, it is a pretty sad day when TV companies are all absolutely amazed at the technology but can't develop a business model themselves to take advantage of it. So I have had to develop the business model for them also. Also, forget the old days of 40% margins. That is part of the problem--TV stations think things will go back to the good ol' days. They won't. However, margins aren't what is important. The important things are cash flow , profits, and ROI. ROI partnering with me is 500% minimum. TV stations can make more money than ever before if they will just use the power that they possess more than anyone else--branding--to drive traffic to my new business model. Want to learn more? I am looking for visionaries. Any out there? Jim http://ClikitySplit.com 615.216.6202
John Schilberg posted over 3 years ago
Regarding shared master control... I think we'll one day see the birth of the "Local SuperStation" (LSS), where the FCC will allow multiple stations (6+) to be combined and operated as one entity, under one roof, their collective bandwidth sliced and diced for a variety of program streams. File-based delivery and transmission automation would be able to handle the task with ease. But, it would be imperative the LSS make a commitment to drilling a tap-root so deep into the local and regional community that they'd seem almost like a member of the family. John
HopeUMakeit Nickname posted over 3 years ago
"ROI partnering with me is 500% minimum. TV stations can make more money than ever before if they will just use the power that they possess more than anyone else--branding--to drive traffic to my new business model" Mr. Clouse provides a excellent example of what I was speaking of in my eariler post. I have never met a a sales manager who would spend 4 months pondering a project with a 500% ROI.
marc schacher posted over 3 years ago
I worked for Tony at KTLA...he was smart then......and still is. I think he's absolutely right.....its going to take some new approaches on the revenue side...and I believe in programming too...but when all this shakes out....there's still a business there. I for one...would like to be part of it Marc Schacher 312 480 0109 bklyndodger@comcast.net
Armando6 Nickname posted over 3 years ago
Sharing of back office functions, using technology to streamline master control, traffic, etc., and the shared costs of news gathering will transform part of the business model. When was 20% margins a horrible thing? Seems good to me, too. I bet there are major market stations this year actually losing money. Visionaries are needed at the station level. However, I have seen too many stations this year, in hopes of getting their costs under control to protect whatever margin they can make, actually reduce the headcount of sales people. Some of the operators out there are saving their way into oblivion! Tony is right on the money. Time for a major paradigm shift in the business model before local TV goes the way of local newspapers.
formergm Nickname posted over 3 years ago
Many stations will go belly up because they produce dreadful local newscasts. The audience is clearly rejecting this garbage. Corporate and general managers see news content as that pesky stuff in between commercials and self serving (crime and weather hype) promos.
kathyc Nickname posted over 3 years ago
Tony, you didn't mention the reinvention of the sales process which is, today, extraordinarily labor intensive on both the station and agency side. We will eventualy lose some advertising revenue if we don't streamline this process. Stations will then have to rely on the realy local business. Both stations and agencies have to buy into these changes which are really changes that will need to be made on the business as well as system sides.
Noozwatch Nickname posted over 3 years ago
I agree with Tony,,and I agree with formergm about stations going belly up for producing dreadful local newscasts. What a load of crap is being put on in the name of news these days! Crime among criminals is not news. (Drug deals gone bad!) Ever hear of a drug deal gone "good?" Also, some not so brilliant news directors are using the anchor chairs to "reward" their so called investigative reporting unit-while dumping their more capable experienced anchors. These kids can't anchor, the public hates them and it's a train wreck. It's like the flop sweat scene from "Broadcast News". And they wonder why no one is watching..Quit trying to make "stars" out of people with no star quality!!
RetiredGM Nickname posted over 3 years ago
Yes ... it's a new world. Tony did not focus much on the sales and sales staffs....so let's think about staffing. When I started selling time, we allowed our most experienced people to grow fat and happy sitting on a big agency list, while our least experienced newbee's work the street on direct accounts and new business. We allowed agencys to dictate TV budgets, shares, and commerical content. We collected our comissions, took home the big bucks and life was good. Then came TV's 911... the great depression of 2007-2009 ... hopefully, not longer. The idea of actually calling on the client and putting serious focus on new business has come back into play... out of necessity. Yes, agencys have real value, they make life easy for sales people. What about putting our best people in front of decision makers at the retail level, and keeping them there? Senior sales people have the ability to enhance the value of television advertising, cement station relationships, gain and give product knowledge on both sides of the table, and develop much needed new revenue. As we know, in the top 100 markets much of our business has filtered down thru local and national advertising agencys. Is it how time to redesign the landscape and keep or best people in front of the source of ad dollars? Transom business ( a commity sale) can and should be handled by just several sales people or even a manager, and free up the senior sales staff protect the revenue side of our business. Allow top producers who bring in new sources of revenue to make the big bucks! When I worked in Denver, San Francisco, Dayton and other markets, I got the greatest thrill by being able to sit down directly with the owner of a automobile dealership, or a large retail store. Great things can and will happen, by putting your best people in front of decision makers.
Rene Hodges posted over 3 years ago
TV stations do not want senior AEs with loads of experience. They want a boatload of droids who they can get to do the transactional business, understand emerging technology and they can manage by spreadsheet.

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