NATPE 2012: It's Still All About Oprah

If you read our interview with Ricki Lake this week, you may have noticed that she took a bit of a shot at Oprah Winfrey. With her new talk show from Twentieth Television, Lake said she hoped to be what Oprah was before she became such a big shot and lost the common touch. "She was your girlfriend," Lake said. "She was not set apart from the audience."

Oprah is long gone — she taped her last show for broadcast syndication eight months ago — but her presence (or absence) is still being felt throughout broadcasting and will pervade the NATPE conference next week in Miami Beach. That name will keep coming up.

Lake and the other three personalities — Katie Couric, Steve Harvey and Jeff Probst — who will be debuting talk shows this fall are all openly vying for the mantle that Oprah relinquished when she decided to move to cable and devote her considerable energies and talents to developing an eponymous network with Discovery.

"There’s a great opportunity in the marketplace," says Janice Marinelli, president of Disney-ABC Domestic Television, the purveyor of Katie. "[W]ith Oprah leaving the syndication marketplace, it created not only wonderful time periods on terrific stations, it also created a need. Now, there’s a void."

Couric and Lake want to fill that void by being "the girlfriend." While Harvey and Probst won't be able to pull that off, they aspire to inspire just as Oprah did. Probst told TVNewsCheck that his show will be about "making your life better and accomplishing the things you want to accomplish." That sounds like "Live Your Best Life" to me.

And they all want her success. In her heart of hearts, I'm certain, even Lake would like nothing more than to achieve the same degree of remoteness that Oprah did. If a billion dollars puts you out of touch with the masses, well, so be it.

"As great as a lot of the hosts have been, the ultimate goal for anybody is to just hope for the success that Oprah had," says Harvey in an interview we'll post Monday. "Half the success she had would be great. A third of that would be great."

Of course, the odds are long against the newcomers from even making it past their initial contracts with stations. That's why Sony Television is already prepping the second coming of Queen Latifah for fall of 2013.

And any of them would do well to match the success not of Oprah — that may beyond the reach of anybody in today's fragmented media world — but of such solid veteran shows as Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz and Ellen. Each has picked up some of Oprah's old audience and settled in.

Broadcasters would like to see some success, too. Each station has bet on one or two of the newcomers. If one pops, they could make piles of money until the license fees catch up with the ratings. That was the trouble with Oprah. In the end, the only one making money on the show was Oprah.

Nobody has quite figured out entirely what the absence of Oprah means for broadcasting. But I can shed some light on the matter.

In the November sweeps two months ago, the first important book in the post-Oprah era, broadcasters lost a lot of viewers in the Oprah time slots, typically 4 p.m. leading into the early news, according to an analysis of the Nielsens in the top 25 markets by Ted Faraone, who has been crunching the numbers for various broadcasters for three decades.

Stations gave up, on average, 6 share points from the November 2010 book, regardless of whether they replaced Oprah with news (as six did) or with other syndicated shows (as 16 did). (Not included in the figuring here is outlier WLS Chicago, Oprah's home station. The ABC O&O aired the show at 9 a.m. and lost 11 points.)

Two of the biggest losers were KGO San Francisco, which shed 8 points by substituting news for Oprah as the other ABC O&Os did, and Cox's WSB Atlanta, which saw 9 share points disappear after it also went with news as an Oprah replacement.

Nobody likes to lose viewers, but the real value of the show (and justificationfor its big fees), I've always been told, was as a news lead-in — its ability to pump up the viewership of the news block that followed. But what jumps from Faraone's analysis is that loss of Oprah didn't affect the following newscasts all that much.

The 23 newscasts that followed Oprah lost on average only 1 share point from November to November. Seven actually picked up share. The biggest gainer was KCRA Sacramento, Calif., which added 2 points even though its lead-in Oprah replacement, Dr. Oz, was down 5 points.